New Delta 7 headrail trial for verts

[1234global]

>:(i agree the quality of these new headrails are crap i will not adjust or repair them just dor them its the only way they will realise how cheap and nasty these new headrails are

[gloryboy]

i really thought the penny pinching couldn't go any lower when they stopped putting elastic bands on the controls for wood vens and just tied them up in knots.

how wrong could i be

this cr*p is straight from Argos.
i haven't received the official notification of the changes, but will read with interest the b*llsh*t spin they will try to put on how these changes are a great step forward in quality!
the carriers are so flimsy i was afraid to sneeze in the room i was fitting today in case they snapped, and how can cutting holes in the spacers to save plastic really be explained to customers as a quality product worth paying for!

DOR's are going to flood in with these, added to the wooden venetians shambles we'd be better off selling our vital organs .

[greenpesto]

Just fitted my first Delta 7 H/Rail order.
It does look fragile compared to the previous model but it is the first order I have had since October 2005 that needed only minor attention to it & no DOR.
The re-aligning of the louvres is easier with little effort but it is also too easy to re-align them when you don't mean to.
I was surprised to have the chains already connected to the weights. This may be due to the fact it was a Business blinds order or maybe a general change to packaging.
The problem with pre-fitting chains is that with wide H/Rails you have to hold a complete handful of louvres together & hope you don't drop any. This would be even more difficult if you try to fit louvres onto a H/Rail that is behind a solid Valance or whilst stretching over a sink unit. Overall this did not make the job any quicker.
The 'G' clips don't appear to grip which may have been a 'one off' but they did move on 2 H/Rails & would not stay put therefore all the louvres would continue moving across the rail.

[j]

Maybe I have been lucky, but all mine seem to work and travel a lot smoother.

[spycatcher]

I've just fitted a Delta 7 rail for a sloping window. Have to DOR it cause cords are wrapped around the links!! Noticed that the articulated drops haven't changed. So on drawing the louvres, the drops being wider than the new carriers, it bunches too tightly. Dont think they thought of this when they slimmed down the carriers!!

[pyramid]

Noticed on the new headrails that the cord gets trapped easily and pulls the whole , or part of the bunch to the middle ( on a spit bunch ) Had this twice now .So that's two DOR's saved allready Nottingham. If this happens when Iv'e left it looks like a service call to me.

[Bear]

pyramid said:

Noticed on the new headrails that the cord gets trapped easily and pulls the whole , or part of the bunch to the middle ( on a spit bunch ) Had this twice now .So that's two DOR's saved allready Nottingham. If this happens when Iv'e left it looks like a service call to me.

Had 2 delta 7 rails today with the carriers hook part broken off.
Got replacements, and again Hillarys have shoved the cost onto us.

You cannot clip off the broken stump of the old one and replace it with a snap-on, NO SIR, you have to replace the whole carrier and take the d**n rail apart....

Another example of costs pushed on to us.
Not surprising as we now pay for
Order forms
Price lists ( Did anyone notice the cost of yesterdays download-- Mine was over £1.60!!!)
etc, etc etc----

[desmorse]

How do you adjust an uneven split draw on D7 rails?

Even though we haven't been notified as promised, I'm now fitting more D7 rails than old. I've had no problems at all yet, but sooner or later I'm going to a dodgy split rail.

[farmer]

desmorse said:

How do you adjust an uneven split draw on D7 rails?

Even though we haven't been notified as promised, I'm now fitting more D7 rails than old. I've had no problems at all yet, but sooner or later I'm going to a dodgy split rail.

with reference to our D7 rails, we are now just like UK Blinds direct, in that theirs are just the same.

So how can we now bleat on about us being better quality when we are trying to price beat.

I wish someone would explain as I am at a loss. My F.S.M .cant tell me, so please someone explain.

this mixed messageing we keep getting from HQ is doing my head in.

[kakalanka]

I've had eneven split draw a few times. Told customers they might need to "tweak" the blinds where they meet to sort things. So does anyone know how to resolve this?

[greenpesto]

Can any of you explain what uneven problems these are with the 'split-bunch'?

Is this the problem due to one of the spacer tubes missing from one side of the central carrier rather than a single large spacer tube that you get with shorter headrails???
Are you referring to the centre louvres pulling away from each other at the bottom due to the chains pulling from one side only?

[desmorse]

No, I'm talking about when you draw the blind back, the louvres all bunch up tightly together one side, but there's a big gap the other side. When drawn across, no problems at all. It used to be a simple matter of loosening 1 grub screw and sliding the master carrier further along the cord.

I have also done a couple of slopers, and the knuckle joints are now wider than the carriers, producing a bit of a mess when drawn back.

[q]

GVM the draw cord has a gold/brass split ball clasped around it, the split ball is located inside one of the two carriers closest to the centre of the headrail, pull down the draw cord from the headrail, release the spit ball slightly, push carriers to each end, move split ball along the cord to to required position, squeeze split ball together and relocate into carrier. Hopefully this helps.

[Blind Scout]

q said:

GVM the draw cord has a gold/brass split ball clasped around it, the split ball is located inside one of the two carriers closest to the centre of the headrail, pull down the draw cord from the headrail, release the spit ball slightly, push carriers to each end, move split ball along the cord to to required position, squeeze split ball together and relocate into carrier. Hopefully this helps.

I gave instructions a while ago on this, the only thing I would add is you need to push the cord out of the carrier block first, use a pair of needle pliers, grip the cord close to the carrier and push intowards the top of the rail.

Slackening of the crimp ball is the hardest bit. Sometimes easy, but with others the crimper has made it so tight it is difficult to slacken. Sharp side cutters can be used to cut the crimp off, but you will need a supply of replacements. Once slackened, I move the crimp away from the carrier, pull the cord tight, ensuring both sets of carriers are fully back, and that the spacers and 'C' clips are correctly fitted, then I mark the cord with a pencil,just outside the carrier to give a guide on the correct location. Use the pliers to pull the crimp back into the carrier once adjustment is complete.

[Blind Scout]

kakalanka said:

I've had eneven split draw a few times. Told customers they might need to "tweak" the blinds where they meet to sort things. So does anyone know how to resolve this?

I suppose what we should do is DOR them. However, we would never be away from the customer, as I am finding that almost all the rail need adjusting, or maybe I'm too much of a perfectionist. So I just adjust them. Did take this up with Ross Kenney when he took our team brief, he was to speak with production, but not heard back.