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Post by gloryboy on Oct 4, 2006 8:06:32 GMT 1
I like the look of this new way, at the moment I always try to avoid 20mm. I have 2 questions:- Does the fabric go over the top of the side-bar, or stop at its edge? and I've never got my head around this.. Why use L- Profile for the top rail, why not just use face-fix brackets? surely you are making more work for yourself. the fabric is dragged over the side rail which i think gives better coverage. i use the l-profile as i feel it gives better fixing options at the top and gives a better finished look, more time again i know.
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Post by gloryboy on Oct 5, 2006 17:58:10 GMT 1
how was your day in Southampton? did David get the drinks???
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Post by desmorse on Oct 5, 2006 19:18:09 GMT 1
how was your day in Southampton? did David get the drinks??? Really good session, or at least most of it was. Talked about how long L profile and strap brackets take on roofs. Explained your method of fitting side rails and they're going to look in to it. They really want to phase out 25mm, but are struggling to find a lower cost replacement than the 20mm. 20mm is also has size restrictions. Personally, I don't find the shapes a problem, but would find losing rectangles at 3-4mt drop an issue. Not a major one, but still an issue. Apparently the problem is due to rigidity of top and bottom rails and getting enough tension in longer blinds. The suggestions of using the 25mm rail, or the 20mm crank rail for a longer drop are to be looked at. The other problem though is there would be more 20mm pleats than 25mm pleats in a given drop, and there's an issue in getting enough tension in the blind. This might overcome the 3mt drop restriction, but doesn't help in finding a lower cost option. Perfect pleat are being looked at but there are some commercial implications. Someone certainly got the beers in, but think it may have been Craig rather than David
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Post by lukan61 on Oct 5, 2006 20:04:15 GMT 1
Ive heard the perfect fit blind system has a couple of snags. In the heatwave we had in the summer, the blinds were popping out of the frames
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Post by hist on Oct 5, 2006 22:24:50 GMT 1
If you had seen "perfect fit" pleateds, you would know that would'nt happen.
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Post by greenpesto on Oct 5, 2006 22:43:06 GMT 1
What are 'perfect fit pleateds' please?
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Post by david on Oct 6, 2006 10:22:33 GMT 1
It is a frame that fits over the glass and PVC you can all so use a 25mm venetians
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Post by lukan61 on Oct 6, 2006 18:13:40 GMT 1
I have seen the a perfect fit blind being fitted! The venetian version (check my other postings) The snag of them popping out in the heatwave was because of the plastic used in the frame! It was a UK Blinds agent what told me
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Post by david on Oct 6, 2006 21:28:10 GMT 1
The one i have is an aluminum frame with plastic corners
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Post by lukan61 on Oct 7, 2006 8:48:06 GMT 1
I told my FSM about 2 months ago that UK BLINDS were doing these perfect fit roof blinds. Question is how can we compete with our current system! Even if the perfect fit system does have a few teething snags
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Post by dibsdobs on Oct 7, 2006 22:36:26 GMT 1
Has anyone ever fitted 20mm and removed the side bars?
Would this still leave a working blind?
I notice from other suppliers, that they use the same system as Hillarys, yet do offer the blinds with or without side rails. Also offer a bottom rail on "tab"s as an option.
I have seen the perfect fit too, ( not the roof) and I think it just might be the future. However I do think the frame cuts out to much light making the windows a lot smaller.
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Post by desmorse on Oct 8, 2006 18:34:25 GMT 1
Has anyone ever fitted 20mm and removed the side bars? Would this still leave a working blind? I notice from other suppliers, that they use the same system as Hillarys, yet do offer the blinds with or without side rails. Also offer a bottom rail on "tab"s as an option. I have seen the perfect fit too, ( not the roof) and I think it just might be the future. However I do think the frame cuts out to much light making the windows a lot smaller. 20mm with open filos has been under investigation for some time as low cost replacement for 25mm. Think it works OK, but doesn't bring the price down to 25mm levels. Full bottom rail on tabs would make fitting SOOOOOOOO much easier, but more expensive than shoes. Have to say, I think our system looks neater than the full bottom rail version
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Post by desmorse on Oct 18, 2006 21:39:43 GMT 1
i've tried to post a photo i took of some (not sure if it will work!) these were replacing a mess from a competitor so ignore the extra holes etc.!!! they're not my doing I did a 26 blind double Edwardian this way yesterday, absolutely brilliant. I've a smaller Victorian to do on Monday which I'll also do this way. BYE BYE STRAP BRACKETS ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by desmorse on Oct 23, 2006 22:20:40 GMT 1
Did another roof today, using gloryboy's method of side rail fixing. Initially had a problem due to angle of roof profiles, but the addition of a single wedge under each bracket cured the problem. That's a 26 blind double edwardian and a 14 blind victorian done his way. Again, much quicker and neater, so thanks twice over gloryboy
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Post by russell on Oct 23, 2006 22:24:45 GMT 1
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