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Post by Blind Scout on Jan 24, 2006 1:38:23 GMT 1
FSM phoned, must want somthing from me thinks I, never calls otherwise.
We have a problems in this area, as no roof specialist imediately available. I used to do roofs before new pythag came in, and then the shop fitters did them all. However since shops and fitters defunct, few speciailst about.
Says FSM, I am re-structuring the way to do roof blinds this season. I want to set up specialist selling and specialist fitting teams, and I want you to be a seller. (I have neck problems and can't look up for long), and another agent to be fitter. Your training will be 1st Feb, local hotel, for a day.
He wants me to sell and measure roofs, putting the fit into the fitters diary directly. So I will get more than the 5% referal fee says I, no says he, just the 5%, the fitter gets the lions share. Thinks I, do I really want the hastle of the extra effort on exact measuring and the wasted journeys travelling every where and when, for that measaly 5%? At least the fitter will have a guaranteed fit, and hence income. Of course I asked about mis-measures, yes, I cop the fine.
Methinks, I will carry on as I did before, unless he takes that away from me as well. (B***y H**l I only do a few straight roof blinds a year anyway, local company are half our price.) If I sell, and have to measure, I may as well do the fit.
Anyone else had this 'call'.
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Post by BlindWizard on Jan 24, 2006 2:44:00 GMT 1
Yep had call a few weeks ago, as far as I understand it's a company wide initiative. What I was told is that:-
They are picking Conservative Sales Specialists. These are advisors who currently get large orders, not necessarily trained on conservatories. Also selecting fitters who have good track record of fitting conservatories. An advisor can be both.
These Conservative Sales Specialists will get "ALL" the conservatory leads roofs or not. Was told this is because advisors getting enquiries just for sides aren't pushing roofs so want them all to go to specialists.
I asked about commission and was told it's staying the same 5% sales and 10% fitting, as far as I understood the fitter would do the measuring.
I said wasn't interested at current rates in doing either or both. As far as fitting is concerned I feel rates too low for work involved, it was put to me that as the sales specialists are big order guys then fitters would earn more from each job as orders would be of higher value.
What have others heard ?
If this is company wide I do feel the new arrangement should be announced so we all know what's going on. My concern is that conservatory leads for sides only will dry up for non specialists.
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Post by kwikfitfitter on Jan 24, 2006 8:50:27 GMT 1
Had a letter on the 14th saying i had been selected to be part of the Sales Specialist Team for 2006, it went on to mention my "new role in conjunction with your current advisor role" sent an email to the FSM who sent the letter(not mine) asking for more details before i commit myself, that was last Thursday, had no reply yet, I'll send the email again but if I don't get a reply i don't go
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Post by kwikfitfitter on Jan 24, 2006 8:59:33 GMT 1
If i remember right all this has been tried before, as recently as last year one advisor did all the awning leads in the east midlands, but too much travelling and poor conversion put paid to that and two years ago all the conservatory leads were handled by one individual, but the poor guy was having to measure and fit 2 roofs a day to make any money
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Post by kwikfitfitter on Jan 24, 2006 9:02:37 GMT 1
Blindwizard said
They are picking Conservative Sales Specialists
Can i be a Lib/Dem sales specialist, I need the rent money
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Post by BlindWizard on Jan 24, 2006 9:49:56 GMT 1
LOL. Alright it was late at night.
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Post by grumperbear on Jan 24, 2006 9:52:23 GMT 1
l thought the commission on a shaped roof was 17.5%
5% to the seller
12.5% to the fitter
Do we have different rates around the country?
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Post by BlindWizard on Jan 24, 2006 10:00:13 GMT 1
Sorry should have been clearer. I've been paid for fitting a referral 10.42% of figure including vat which is around 12.5% excluding vat.
I always work on including vat price as when do we talk about the nett price, only when Hillarys are quoting the commission rate. Plus explaining the prices on the invoice to customers
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Post by Blind Scout on Jan 24, 2006 10:16:10 GMT 1
Blindwizard said ... Can i be a Lib/Dem sales specialist, I need the rent money If you need the money, don't you have to be a good 'fit'ter. oops getting a bit risky. |
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Post by greenpesto on Jan 24, 2006 10:28:26 GMT 1
Yet another un-workable idea from Sillarys I fear!!!!! You will notice the tone will change soon & will be followed by 'Threats' of "If you don't do it then we'll have to consider your connection with the company"... now where have we seen this happen before?  ? I have received a note from my FSM about 'Lead to Diary' being too long. The tone of this was good to start off, .... but it was followed by "Diaries will have to have 'forced' time slots if you don't help" An old pattern continuing perhaps?!!!!!! Maybe the Meetings we are having with H/O are not working then???!!!!! SURPRISED?! ... I THINK NOT!!!!!!!! |
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Post by Blind Scout on Jan 24, 2006 10:41:49 GMT 1
... These Conservative Sales Specialists will get "ALL" the conservatory leads roofs or not. Was told this is because advisors getting enquiries just for sides aren't pushing roofs so want them all to go to specialists. This is my worry. If all leads go to the sales specialist. I do a lot of side only orders. Although in this area the average sale is around 550ukp, larger orders have been received. I always ask about roof blinds and invariable the answer is a) tinted roof doesn't need or b) they are only interested in privacy/shade for the sides. Of course I always leave room for future expansion. I don't mind pricing for roofs (area x num blinds), and if a sale is made, passing it to the specialist to acurately measure and fit. After all, if you are fitting, would you not prefer to measure the windows yourself. You will know where and how you are going to fit the blinds. Like you I will keep to the 5% referal fee for sales only. |
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Post by kwikfitfitter on Jan 24, 2006 12:02:13 GMT 1
Blindwizard said
If you need the money, don't you have to be a good 'fit'ter.
oops getting a bit risky.
I say
You can't get a better "fit" than with a kwikfitfitter
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Post by BlindWizard on Jan 24, 2006 15:16:25 GMT 1
kwikfitfitter, I didn't say that !!
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Post by Bear on Jan 24, 2006 17:06:32 GMT 1
Yep had call a few weeks ago, as far as I understand it's a company wide initiative. What I was told is that:- They are picking Conservative Sales Specialists. These are advisors who currently get large orders, not necessarily trained on conservatories. Also selecting fitters who have good track record of fitting conservatories. An advisor can be both. These Conservative Sales Specialists will get "ALL" the conservatory leads roofs or not. Was told this is because advisors getting enquiries just for sides aren't pushing roofs so want them all to go to specialists. I asked about commission and was told it's staying the same 5% sales and 10% fitting, as far as I understood the fitter would do the measuring. I said wasn't interested at current rates in doing either or both. As far as fitting is concerned I feel rates too low for work involved, it was put to me that as the sales specialists are big order guys then fitters would earn more from each job as orders would be of higher value. What have others heard ? If this is company wide I do feel the new arrangement should be announced so we all know what's going on. My concern is that conservatory leads for sides only will dry up for non specialists. Re above Conservatory leads have already dried up for non-specialist cons roof people. If you get a lead where they ask you for con. sides it will be a rare one now as Leads Central are asking callers if it is for a conservatory? If you are not a roof-man, then you dont get it. Period. Another reason to ignore the Lead Effect I think--just another Hillary stick to beat you with! Someone came 32 miles into my patch to do a cons. ONLY did the walls!!! Now I am asked back to do one for the en-suite bog--£49.00 dear.. That'll be fine thanks There are times......... |
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Post by Bear on Jan 24, 2006 17:10:09 GMT 1
Yet another un-workable idea from Sillarys I fear!!!!! You will notice the tone will change soon & will be followed by 'Threats' of "If you don't do it then we'll have to consider your connection with the company"... now where have we seen this happen before? ? I have received a note from my FSM about 'Lead to Diary' being too long. The tone of this was good to start off, .... but it was followed by "Diaries will have to have 'forced' time slots if you don't help" An old pattern continuing perhaps?!!!!!! Maybe the Meetings we are having with H/O are not working then???!!!!! SURPRISED?! ... I THINK NOT!!!!!!!! Booked this evening off for family curry nite...did it last week... Got the email above, and opened my SAM today to find 2 calls put in for this evening.... Rang up asked why, told its because we are snowed under and FSM said to do it..... Now how can I b****r up a night out that my FSM is planning? Heartless swine the lot of them... |
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