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Post by Augustus on Oct 9, 2005 14:54:27 GMT 1
For the first time in I don't know how long, I did a whole roof yesterday with no problems !
Fitted without need for DOR's or really breaking a sweat !
9-30 to 3-30 with an hours break for lunch.
£2400 - thank you very much !
I will have to say that I used the 25mm rather than 20mm as I'm still not convinced with the 20mm.
P.
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Post by phugly on Oct 9, 2005 15:12:38 GMT 1
Have to agree with you on the 25 v 20. have only fitted one 20mm roof with shapes and found that there was no tolerance at all. At least with 25mm you can shift them about a bit to get the best effect.
PS. recently fitted 20mm electric to a lean to with no probs and was quite impressed
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Post by farmer on Oct 14, 2005 22:56:58 GMT 1
Electric ?? is that a Hillarys product??
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Post by Augustus on Oct 15, 2005 0:35:23 GMT 1
it uses a crank system, no good if the blinds are too long mind you so keep a close eye on the top limits.
I do use 20mm for everything but shaped roofs tho.
Just don't seem to have the motivation to sell them.
P.
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Post by aikido on Oct 15, 2005 8:27:34 GMT 1
It,s about time we had a good remote system that works well. It. been around for years now if we are market leaders why don't we have it I think I could sell it over and over
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Post by Augustus on Oct 15, 2005 13:19:59 GMT 1
according to my sources we just can't get the tech stuff to work.
We aren't the market leader.
Sanderson's are .
P.
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Post by mendipmagpie on Oct 15, 2005 21:53:22 GMT 1
Sorry Motters but have to disagree the 20mm are OK and more commission.Just use the side bars to your advantage.We have done quite well this season with very few problems.If production could just number them the same way as the order form it would be even better.
MM
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Post by Augustus on Oct 16, 2005 9:52:39 GMT 1
Don't you find that you need to effectivly order each roof blind 1cm smaller on all sides with the 20mm to make sure they fit together ?
I guess I just feel more control with the 25mm .
When it first came out one of the big 'selling' points t ous was the fact that they will all come pre-tentioned for us.
This was quickly forgotten as I never had one which was 'click-n-go' . Each one needed adjusting sometimes at several points as well with that small fiddly tool.
P.
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Post by mendipmagpie on Oct 16, 2005 20:40:30 GMT 1
Hi M
Dont know about you but we just leave about 1 cm between the blinds and use a template on the corners. Also use bottom trim for slide-ability ?.
Got to agree with you about the pre-tentioning and that naff adjustment screw.
MM
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Post by desmorse on Nov 10, 2005 22:18:59 GMT 1
Electric blinds with remote control were trialed a couple of years ago in Hampshire. About a dozen of us spent 2 days at head office learning how to fit and wire them up. Very expensive compared to power crank and very limited market. This was when we had AOEs and were moving upmarket. As you all know, we have now moved massively down market. Customers who will spend this sort of money don't go to bargain basement ads of 3 for £99
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Post by greenpesto on Nov 29, 2005 1:57:50 GMT 1
Have stopped selling 20mm blinds or even take referrals with them. Have fitted a few but find them longer to do. The side bars are unwielding & to fit the screws into the plastic doughnuts is a pain. Once you fit the side bars into the clip & tighten with the Torque T20 tool, the bars slide down as there is nothing to stop them doing this. The tolerances on 20mm is tight also.
To be honest, the percentage of service calls are higher by far to that of the 25mm system.
The only real positive with 20mm is square blinds that aren't too big & you can fit into wood.
25mm has terrific tolerances. I had always measured so that the blinds would almost touch, but on some occasions you then find you have little space for the 'filo' anchors e.g. the 'Apollo 13' ones. Now I measure with an overlap of 5 - 10mm past the edge of the roof bars. This gives even more space to manouvre. Customers won't expect any different & the job actually looks better.
If we had a fully electric system I would have problems because I am no electrician.
Has anyone noticed that Sandersons are not much dearer than us now?
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Post by Augustus on Nov 29, 2005 9:40:29 GMT 1
I have noticed that too.
Can't we just get a deal with sandersons to be introducers ? We get part commission/ HQ take their cut nothing to make nothing to fit and more importantly nothing to DOR !!!!
P.
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Post by gloryboy on Nov 29, 2005 10:06:35 GMT 1
i prefer 20mm now. i was very hesitant to begin with and used to measure with the same carefree abandon as i had with 25mm. after disasters now take extra time to measure then find much easier to fit than 25mm. now only offer 20mm and always at full price. too much work involved to be doing deals in roofs. re pre tensioning, just another Hillarys myth! like the one that they'd be quicker to fit  |
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Post by blinder on Dec 16, 2005 9:58:23 GMT 1
Apparently, in 2006 no advisors will get ANY conservatory leads unless they are trained to either measure and sell.
I wonder just how many conservatory leads we do actually get and is it worth the hassle.
Means carting large ladders about and to be quite honest, do I want to balance at the top of a ladder in mid summer fitting what appears to be an awkward to fit and unreliable product?
What do you guys think?
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Post by JoY on Dec 16, 2005 10:18:55 GMT 1
This was the best news we had from Hillarys in 2005!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
[glow=red,2,300]NO MORE CONSERVATORY ROOFS[/glow]
I hate going to CN roof sales. I hate selling them, as I know my hubby HATES measuring and fitting them with a passion!
We rarely get the sale, * as I never offer a discount or price match, and if we do, the commission paid for the hassle is not worth it.
* I've always thought this is because they are expecting a quote in the £100's and not £1000's
Does anyone actually LIKE doing them?? Or will you all be happy to get out of doing them like us....leaving more time for other sales?
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