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Post by phugly on Dec 13, 2006 16:01:25 GMT 1
There must be a better way of fitting curved verticals. The clips supplied are worse than useless. Fitted one this morning that fell down three times simply because the clips wont hold it. Tried tightening the clips but that didnt work
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dolly
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Post by dolly on Dec 13, 2006 16:51:49 GMT 1
There must be a better way of fitting curved verticals. The clips supplied are worse than useless. Fitted one this morning that fell down three times simply because the clips wont hold it. Tried tightening the clips but that didnt work[/quote Have you tried drilling through the rail and screwing it directly to the top of the recess? I must admit ive done it loads of times on a normal rail but not a curved.
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blindsfitter
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Post by blindsfitter on Dec 13, 2006 18:20:38 GMT 1
There must be a better way of fitting curved verticals. The clips supplied are worse than useless. Fitted one this morning that fell down three times simply because the clips wont hold it. Tried tightening the clips but that didnt work Make sure you are using the RIGHT top fixings. There are 2 sizes. As Michael Caine said " There's not a lotta people know that!" Check this out with Technicals.... Some prat may well be sending you the wrong ones---I had that but got new ones sent when I rang for spares and found they were a slightly different size !!! Blindsfitter
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Post by libra on Dec 13, 2006 21:16:27 GMT 1
I had same problem, customer phoned me saying "the blind has fell down and was lucky not to have damaged her ornament's." (probably from the pound shop) I went back and the Top fix brackets were still up there as strong as you would ever need, but the rail had simply just dropped down.
I had to dismantle and BEND brackets in so they would spring tight and hold the rail.
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Post by RED on Dec 13, 2006 21:17:14 GMT 1
There must be a better way of fitting curved verticals. The clips supplied are worse than useless. Fitted one this morning that fell down three times simply because the clips wont hold it. Tried tightening the clips but that didnt work It also depends on the area it is too be fitted into being level. Any deviation can put a strain on the spring clips so you may find you have to put more clips on to hold it better. Also, I find it easier to use the clips the wrong way round than you would with normal verticals. In other words, the thumb plate at the front. It makes life a lot easier locking it in at the back first then raising it than locking it in at the front. Does that make sense! I love doing curved, never had a problem. Red
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Post by desmorse on Dec 13, 2006 23:02:14 GMT 1
Have you tried drilling through the rail and screwing it directly to the top of the recess? I must admit ive done it loads of times on a normal rail but not a curved. Doesn't work on curved, tried it a couple of years ago. If you look inside the rail, there's a central groove in the top section, and something seems to run along it. Having drilled the rail, (as you would with standard), the blind would no longer draw. Even taking the screw out, something jammed in the hole. I've fitted loads of these without problems, but my last two, I've had the same problem with the brackets. I've overcome it by using some old ones from the spares box. Agree with red about putting brackets back-to-front. Only problem is they snap in easier but fall out easier as well. Still do it on a shapes 2 & 3, but no longer on a 1. Also, there's no need to drill standard rails anymore. If you need to raise the rail a bit, use a top fix bracket from 20mm pleated crank rail. Has same effect, but quicker and easier.
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Post by noggins on Jun 14, 2007 23:58:32 GMT 1
Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated...
I've measured for a shape 1 curved vert and have dor'd 3 times now as it just won't fit. Measured Dim A and B and Drop all ok and it is not in a recess so there's no room for moving it and there are no handles in the way. Now, I have positioned a face fix ueb at each end (to hold it up os I can see where to fix the others) but there is no space the centre of the rail is flush with the window architrave with no room for the louvers to rotate I have spoken to a couple of people who seem to agree what I have done is correct but I'm at the end of me tether please Thanks Dave
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Post by gloryboy on Jun 15, 2007 17:46:18 GMT 1
speak to Andrew @ washington curved verts. he is brilliant. draw a diagram of what you want and fax it to him.
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Post by advisorc proudly SA woman on Jun 15, 2007 19:53:38 GMT 1
Did any one of you have recently being put in the position that the quotes team converted a quote and booked a fit date even if you are not available on that specific date? Well they've done it and the customer is really upset that i can not fit the blinds on that day, because they promised them it will be fitted on that day! needless to say the person that have done it is now silent as death......! Their answer, we have 15 days to book fit, if you are not available that is not our problem! Yehh right!! I am the one to face the customer and why do we have diary support if nobody else take that in account?
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Post by billysugger on Jun 15, 2007 23:41:01 GMT 1
sounds like dimension b is incorrect noggin, have u double checked that?
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Post by ascreaton on Jun 16, 2007 8:49:58 GMT 1
I love fitting curved headrails, I always use face fix UEB's and put them in the plastic, dont have to guess where the brackets need to be, always agree with the customer first, also put the spring clips the opposite way around as mentioned, almost impossible to fit rail if not, as said before they have probably sent the wrong type of bracket. Defo cannot drill through the rail Ade
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Post by noggins on Jun 17, 2007 21:40:10 GMT 1
speak to Andrew @ washington curved verts. he is brilliant. draw a diagram of what you want and fax it to him. Cheers Gloryboy I'll give him a call and hopefully resolve this as it's bin going on a bit now, thanks for the contact, I'll let you know how I get on. Dave Hi Ade - I had checked measurement B which was correct thanks anyway, it's driving me nuts.... However, one thought I did have was to put in a measurment for handles say 4cm, any thoughts anyone? Of course, I'll see what Andrew thinks too when I speak to him. thanks again
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Post by noggins on Jun 17, 2007 22:06:41 GMT 1
sounds like dimension b is incorrect noggin, have u double checked that? Did check dim b and all was ok but now thinking about putting in a measurement for handle clearance which may provide the clearance I need, what do you think? (sorry billysugger in my reply to gloryboy I refered to Ade who I thought posted)
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Post by blindmansam on Jun 18, 2007 0:35:07 GMT 1
Did any one of you have recently being put in the position that the quotes team converted a quote and booked a fit date even if you are not available on that specific date? Well they've done it and the customer is really upset that i can not fit the blinds on that day, because they promised them it will be fitted on that day! needless to say the person that have done it is now silent as death......! Their answer, we have 15 days to book fit, if you are not available that is not our problem! Yehh right!! I am the one to face the customer and why do we have diary support if nobody else take that in account? This situation HAS happened to me - And Hillarys are well out of order ! For instance - what if you are part time - They do NOT know when you are available to fit ! It's only a case of a quick phone call to you to arrange that fit in your diary - They just can't be ar5ed! Someone in 'Quotes' needs some education . What does FSM say about it - Oh don't bother - He/She won't do a thing !
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Post by billysugger on Jun 19, 2007 20:10:55 GMT 1
hi nogs,re: handle allowance....... if curved is in a recess, providing the recess is a least 8/10cm deep i always put a 0..(zero) in andle allowance, this allows you to just move rail forward enuff for louvres to miss 'andles ..(not fork 'andles)winda 'andles.hope this helps..
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