contract

[gloryboy]

i have the same contract/agreement.
interesting to see the term 'agency' in there.
should we be worried about the insistance that we are referred to as advisors with advisor businesses?

[dodgybracket]

The Contract clearly states that " Hillarys pay commission based on the sales you achieve".

SOOO!.... Why do I suffer deductions from the commission paid after Hillarys decide to lower the order value by giving a discount because the thingy-up Christmas delivery?

What am I missing here!!

I sold it for a price agreed.
The contract says they pay commission based on the price agreed.
They thingy up, They lower price to customer.
I still have to do same amount of work--I cannot reduce the amount of work I do for them by 20%.

WHY THE ---- deduct money from me???

I have just heard that one long standing agent has gone to a lawyer on this and he is recommending that the Agent takes a County Court action against Hillarys for breach.....
Agent trying to negotiate with Hillarys before doing this but they are stalling pending outcome of NORTH/SOUTH Meetings...

The plot thickens....

watch this space...

[grumperbear]

Yes the plot thickens.

And its all Hillarys fault.

lf they had not pushed things and bullied us etc etc, maybe this forum would have never come about.
They have opened a can of worms..............

[Bear]

And by the way the bit where it says you cannot operate in a similar capacity for a year after leaving Hillarys is bunkum.

It has been proved in English Law that that amounts to deprivation of trade and is unenforceable.
Solicitor client, THIS MORNING, said so when I was fitting his office.

You may hit a problem calling on clients Hillarys gave you and selling to them, if they havent asked you specifically to call.
Thats why we lost the direct numbers in the ads--clients now ring Hillarys.

You can sell to a client Hillarys gave you in your old job, if you leaflet them and they respond or you meet them in the street. You cannot go up and knock and say rememeber me " The Hillarys guy" and say your on your own. They can chase you for that --and that only..

But they cant stop you from working for another blind firm in your area, or on your own. They would try, but the flying jump response comes to mind..

[greenpesto]

This commission 'claw-back' puts Hillarys in breach of contract & IS illegal anyway.
The change in Contract details should always be amended in writing.
The change in Bonus structure SHOULD have been in writing also with full details on how to achieve it. Mine has disappeared completely even when my details appear correct. I have now lost around £6k p.a. in income due to this. Nobody notified me I was to lose Bonus.

Looking at the Contract I wonder how Hillarys would stand on their BSI Certificates due to quality issues & the ISO9002 Certificate as they clearly cannot follow their own outline submitted to get get this.
Where everything has gone wrong for Us & Hillarys over the passed few years are I think down to the following:
1.
Pressure from Shareholders to maximise profit.
2.
Weak Management allowing themselves to be 'bullied' by Shareholders.
3.
Lack of interest from Directors who are more concerned with working on their Portfolios rather than the job in front of them.
4.
Directors delegating to upper management that have Ego's bigger than their knowledge of the business & how to effectively 'man manage'.
5. That same management due to their own 'inferiority complex' demand total control over the lower management level therefore taking away any ability for anyone to help Us or the Company.
FSM's for example carry out their jobs in fear of making a decision.

With this in mind I would say that as much as I like being 'optimistic' about our futures & the outcome of these upcoming meetings, I feel that the response from those representing Hillarys H/O will be the usual.... 'We hear you .... but it will not change, we have set out our 'stall' so get with the programme or leave!".
Above all I think that Hillarys have 'Grossly' under estimated the Sales Force 'big time!.' By that I mean that it was Hillarys intension to 'waste' Advisers that would not conform & replace them with new people that would not know any better.
To be honest, Hillarys think that we are all 'exbendable' & 'Ten-a-Penny'! They think we are like those very few Advisers that are not up to standard & 'Tar' us all with the same brush.
Hillarys want 2000 Advisers all doing £6000 net per month, all like little 'Robots' whilst rubbing their hands as we pay for everything e.g. SAM costs, Data Transfer & DOR's etc. They don't really want 'Full-timers'
However, we Advisers feel strongly & passionately about our jobs & are putting up a much bigger fight than Hillarys would have ever dreamed possible.
The fact remains though, that I don't think Hillarys WILL change until it is too late. Shareholders, Portfolio builders & Managers BEWARE!!!!! You may just find yourselves wandering what happened whilst you stand there in the 'Dole Queue.'
Having said all that, has anyone got details on Shareholders that could be contacted?
Would they be horrified that their investment is under such a threat by the way Hillarys is being run?
Does Tony Hillary ( still a shareholder ) know what is happening or that 'Advisers on-line' exists?.

I sincerely wish the 23 Advisers the very best of 'British!' attending the Meeting. Lets hope I'm wrong on a great number of points!

Regards to all!!!

[russell]

whats happened to thepage size its driving me mad help ::)well