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Post by desmorse on Mar 11, 2006 18:04:59 GMT 1
Just quoted my first Laser awning, and it seemed very cheap to me. 6mt * 3mt with wind & sun control just £3,160.
Anyone still got the old price lists? What would the full cassette, motorised plus W+S control come out to?
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Post by Augustus on Mar 12, 2006 19:55:57 GMT 1
sold one 2 weeks back for £2k with bells and all. bit of a bargain for them and great for me.
Pricing is very good, I'm eager to sell more and more.
bit corny but ask people on every call . you WILL get some takers.
P.
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Post by desmorse on Apr 26, 2006 16:47:45 GMT 1
Had an interesting conversation with a man from Centurion today. A couple of points people should be aware of.
Gallows brackets. I was told dimension X was height from ground. It's not, it the depth of the bracket and is fixed at 50cm. Dimension Z is shown on the survey form as 20cm as std, 40cm max. It's fixed at 25cm. Only dimension you can specify is Y.
Over conservatory. Told OK over a lean-to at the launch, and had this confirmed during a later conversation. Centurion say can be done, but not at standard Hillarys prices. It involves a 4 rather than 2 man team, with crawler boards and supports, so must get a special price from Centurion.
Saw a couple of Sanderson awnings at a customers recently. Very nice, full cassette system with W+S, but also lighting built in to cassette and patio heaters mounted on wall, all remote controlled.
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Post by glen on Apr 26, 2006 18:31:58 GMT 1
Can lights not be fitted to the new laser awnings ? if so how much are they extra also am I right in thinking the max projection is 3 metres ?
Measured one today 6.29 metres width cust. would like it to go out further than 3 metres
Any comments would be appreciated.
Glen
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Post by desmorse on Apr 26, 2006 20:09:47 GMT 1
Pretty sure 3mt is the limit. I discussed this with the guy this morning, the problem is the loading it puts on the wall. It can be done by bolting through and plating the back (inside) of the wall. Not really something you want to do in residential property. My customer wanted 8.5mt wide, by 4 or 4.5mt projection. The idea was to cover her conservatory (3mt deep) and then extend on in to the garden
Not aware lighting is available on laser, like it was on the old one.
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Post by gloryboy on Apr 26, 2006 21:04:56 GMT 1
no lighting available. they are apparantly considering this. i was under the same impression as you gvm about gallows brackets, i was told these measurements were needed to calculate the dimensions of brackets. must be getting used to the taste of b***sh*t!  do you know the cost of the Sandersons ones? |
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Post by mendipmagpie on Apr 26, 2006 21:18:53 GMT 1
gloryboy
Quoted against Sandersons last week we were £1800 they were at £3200 seemed to be the same deal but we included free sensors so add that
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Post by mendipmagpie on Apr 26, 2006 21:22:32 GMT 1
Dam did it again must get the brail fixed on keyboard.
I was about to say I think we would be about a grand cheaper for a like for like.
MM
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Post by greenpesto on Apr 26, 2006 22:59:19 GMT 1
Yes! 3m is max projection!!!!! Remember that the width must be 0.5m wider than projection.
There is however a company out there that does an Awning that projects further than the width.
Where we have 2 'arms' with a single 'elbow' joint making a 'V' shape, theirs has 3 or even 4 'arms' that bend into a 'N' or even a 'W' shape so projection on a 2.5m wide Awning can project around 5.5m to 6m.
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Post by desmorse on Apr 26, 2006 23:18:03 GMT 1
no lighting available. they are apparantly considering this. i was under the same impression as you gvm about gallows brackets, i was told these measurements were needed to calculate the dimensions of brackets. must be getting used to the taste of b***sh*t! do you know the cost of the Sandersons ones? Don't know the price. Awning looked very similar to ours, main obvious difference was chain link where we have the "plastic encapsulated 7 strand cable". Looked incredibly heavy and ugly, you could moor a small ship with it. The 4 wall mounted patio heaters were all at slightly different heights and none of them level. Looked really crappy. Customer is in dispute with TS over colour. They say TS salesman got it wrong, TS say they changed their mind. Bearing in mind I, and customer, live within 3 miles of TS factory, they have to deal with London office who aren't being very helpful. Solicitors letters have started. Now had this been a hillarys order, they'd have got 2 new awnings, 50% cash back and free window blinds, just in case Also saw the £5.5k roof I lost to TS this week. In comparison to our 20mm, looks really ugly. Filos are very black, and terminate in flat white square bits. Every where you looked was filos, all over lapping in the corners. I really think our 20mm side rails look the dogs whatsits in comparison. Their mounting rail is much better than ours. Once screwed to the roof bars, the brackets seem to slide in to a slotted section. So much quicker and easier than our L profile. |
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Post by desmorse on Apr 26, 2006 23:32:32 GMT 1
Having just re-read my own, last posting comparing TS awning and pleated with ours, it struck me this would be a good forum for listing who uses what and how it compares. I have asked Hillarys for this, and got nowhere, but we get to see them in the real world and could log details on our main competitors, like TS, UK Blinds and so on.
Remember, our 20mm pleated isn't a Hillarys system, it's made under licence from a German company, Bentine. I can never remember whether TS's system is Dutch or Belgian, but many other small local companies use the same system. TS add their own anti-fanning system in the same way we add our equal pleating system.
So Motters, how about setting up a sort of "competitor watch" area. It would be nice if we could keep it to factual comparisons rather then "So & So Blinds are crap and their sales guy tells lies about us". If we know what we're quoting against, it's much easier to educate the customer.
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Post by Blind Scout on Apr 27, 2006 0:23:32 GMT 1
Did the course, got the new photo presentation folder, fabric samples and order pads. I even have the bag for the sample of the awning arm, but no sample. E-mailed Ross Kenney weeks ago now, still no reply.
Has everyone else, who have done the training, got the awnings arm sample. Do we need it, do you find it useful?
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Post by farmer on Apr 27, 2006 8:25:25 GMT 1
Did the course, got the new photo presentation folder, fabric samples and order pads. I even have the bag for the sample of the awning arm, but no sample. E-mailed Ross Kenney weeks ago now, still no reply. Has everyone else, who have done the training, got the awnings arm sample. Do we need it, do you find it useful? we were told we would not be getting one!! |
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Post by desmorse on Apr 27, 2006 9:50:03 GMT 1
Did the course, got the new photo presentation folder, fabric samples and order pads. I even have the bag for the sample of the awning arm, but no sample. E-mailed Ross Kenney weeks ago now, still no reply. Has everyone else, who have done the training, got the awnings arm sample. Do we need it, do you find it useful? you're lucky you got the bag! We were told John Risman wouldn't sign off the £60/set so we wouldn't be getting them |
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Post by Augustus on Apr 28, 2006 20:21:09 GMT 1
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