go to fulltime ???

[taekwon]

hi all,

i've been toying with the idea of going full time with hillarys for a while now as i'm fed up with my normal office job. spoke to fsm who says no probs, bla bla bla.

reading everyones gripes on the forum makes me think again. can anyone give me their honest opinions as to if its worth it or not. to cover my existing job i need to earn at least 26k per annum.

your views would be greatly appreciated.

[JoY]

Don't do it!!!

Don't put all your eggs in one basket if you can help it!

My hubby has a full time job, and fits the blinds that I sell part time.

I also have another part time job.

We would not want to rely totally on Hillarys for our income.

Give it careful thought!!!

How long have you been with Hillarys?

PS Ignore your FSM...... (on this issue anyway!)

[hereticus]

Can't help feeling that Joy is being a bit too negative on this.

Full time works for some people and not others.

Firstly, consider that you need to turnover £ 200000 minimum to earn £ 35000 which, after expenses and overhead, will just about match your £ 26000 target.

Look at what competition you have in your area, not only other companies but also other Hillarys agents.

Are you prepared to offer the whole portfolio of products i.e get trained on Conservatory Roofs, Awnings, etc and also to accept roof referrals from other agents.

Also, think about timing. It will take you a few months to get established and to sort out your working pattern so would be useful if you've got a few grand to tide you over the period of adjustment. Best time of year for leads and high order values is generally April through September so if you do go for it, March would probably be your best time.

As for Joy's comment that you should ignore your FSM - depends who it is ! Some of them actually are quite good. If he simply pushes you to go for it, then question his motivation - but if he points out the negatives, helps you put together a basic business plan, and encourages you to talk to other full timers, then he probably does care.

Hope some other full timers will respond with further comments. Don't be too put off by all the moans on this site - they are mostly understandable and justified, and there is some concern for the direction in which the company is going - but we're all still here, aren't we ? Our hope is that by sharing our opinions we will actually influence some decisions and thereby ensure that Hillarys remains a good company to work for. It's not all gloom and doom.

[hereticus]

Sorry...slight error on previous post. Of course £ 200000 turnover does not earn you £ 35000. What I intended to type was £ 20000 per month = £ 240000 !

Purely a freudian slip.

[Augustus]

I'd like give my input on this as I was part time when I started.

I choose a really bad time, but then I never knew about it !

They altered the computer system and alot of orders simply disapeared !!!

A major problem that took weeks to sort out.

So, yes make sure you wait until at least the 2nd week in Feb as it will have picked up enough then to give you the leads you need to go F/T.

Also it does depend on your area.

P.

[grumperbear]

No. Do not go fulltime and do not trust your FSM.

Last summer when my appointments from Hillarys amounted to about 5 or 6 per week, (that was for a diary that was fully open).

FSM comments such as "what can l say" They could not care less.

[inkjet]

I am technically Part Time.

I find it very difficult to Run my other Busuness and Hillarys plus other Commitments.

Hillarys seems to consume time.

I read with interest section on how you run your agency

Would be interested in 20K month time allocation plan

ie Selling Time Fitting Time, DOR time, Administration Time etc

[russell]

i do about 30k per month sell and fit spend about 50 to 60 hrs a week

[russell]

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[miss measure]

dont waste your time anyway we will have too buy a franchise before long mark my words and remember who told you

[miss measure]

wow you lot are a barrel of laughs dont talk then but its your loss my 18 years on the firm make me well informed by losers

[taekwon]

just as i thought

i think its best to sit on it until spring.
thanks for the advice though.

In some area's it looks like there is still plenty of leads about to get 30k per month Nice !!!


i've been p/t for approx 5 yrs and availability is always full.

[heriticus]

i will cant afford any more money fax phoneline uniform sam 3for99 etc

[JoY]

Aren't there rules about not working for just one company if you're self-employed?? I understood you had to have an income from more than one source.

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jayandemm said:

Aren't there rules about not working for just one company if you're self-employed?? I understood you had to have an income from more than one source.

I have said it before and will say it again, Would you really want to be full time employed with Hillary's? Yes you are correct in the fact that if you receive 70% or above income from one company you are technically employed. But imagine it. You will be told to do evenings, Saturdays when to get up when to finish. You will have to ask for your holidays and only get them when cover is found, You will be told to cover other areas when advisor's are off. The list is endless. All you would get in return would be a small salary made up with a bonus from what you sell. Sure, you wold get Holls and pension rights but is it really worth it for what you would loose. IMHO I don't think so.
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